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ah, so it's apparently All My Fault! shocking [Jul. 2nd, 2009|09:32 am]
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Over at Pam's House Blend, Autumn Sandeen went kind of crazy about mean trans people using the term "cisgender", which she and Pam Spaulding have both claimed was "weaponized." They took a lot of flak for this, on my blog and elsewhere, and yesterday Pam announced that this morning, Autumn will be putting up a new post about the moderation policy ("civility" is the key, silencing concept, i.e. tone argument) and the whole imbroglio.

Here's where it is.

Here's where she talks about "cisgender" being "weaponized:"
Uh, hey, some of us were there when Aravosis publicly made the case that we [transgender people] don't belong in his cisgender gay-rights movement. It's not ancient history for us. It's the way Aravosis treats trans people. We've borne the scars; we're the ones who had our comments deleted or edited, earned our bans from his site.
And you wonder why we hate the guy? ...
That's the exact comment in the Aravosis thread that first injected the term cisgender into our recent discussions. And, That's not my emphasis in that comment above, it's the blender's emphasis.

In that comment, the term cisgender wasn't used to explain privilege to people who didn't understand it, but instead used to angrily -- accusatorily -- pointing a finger at John Aravosis for being a gay white male who doesn't care about the civil rights of transgender people. It was that weaponized use of that cis- term that began the current Pam's House Blend debate over cisgender and cissexual terminology here at The Blend. When I've mentioned repeatedly that the two cis- terms have been weaponized at The Blend, this is the is starting point as to where I feel the term was weaponized against gay white men.

Frankly, my transgender peers, this is where I began seeing the terms cisgender and cissexual as weapons in the Pam's House Blend threads. When, in my opinion, these terms should be used to teach -- as Julia Serrano and others use the term -- I saw the term cisgender used to express anger and hate.

The writer of that comment has now written her own blog about how I've shut down discussion of the cis- terms here at The Blend. She's also commenting that I shut down discussion -- many comments to that effect in her twitter feed.

In my opinion, this blender began this recent Pam's House Blend a discussion of cis- terminology with a can of gasoline and a match, and then has responded with anger as I tried to put out the fires.

That person who she doesn't even name, but happily links to (including the twitter feed)? That scapegoat? That whipping girl?

Me.

Here's the comment I was responding to -- which Autumn doesn't link to -- in which a cisgender person argues that Aravosis was just "asking valid questions" and "made wonderful points." When? When he wrote this Salon article -- part of his campaign against including trans people in ENDA:

How did the T get in LGBT?



The 30-year fight for a federal gay civil rights law may fail because activists insist on including rights for transgendered people too. Has gay inclusiveness gone too far too fast?

By John Aravosis

Like an ever-expanding mushroom cloud of diversity, every few years America's gay leaders and activists welcome a new category of member to the community.

[...]

In simpler times we were all gay. But then the word "gay" started to mean "gay men" more than women, so we switched to the more inclusive "gay and lesbian." Bisexuals, who were only part-time gays, insisted that we add them too, so we did (not without some protest), and by the early 1990s we were the lesbian, gay and bisexual, or LGB community. Sometime in the late '90s, a few gay rights groups and activists started using a new acronym, LGBT -- adding T for transgender/transsexual. And that's when today's trouble started.

[...]

I have a sense that over the past decade the trans revolution was imposed on the gay community from outside, or at least above, and thus it never stuck with a large number of gays who weren't running national organizations, weren't activists, or weren't living in liberal gay enclaves like San Francisco and New York. Sure, many of the rest of us accepted de facto that transgendered people were members of the community, but only because our leaders kept telling us it was so. A lot of gays have been scratching their heads for 10 years trying to figure out what they have in common with transsexuals, or at the very least why transgendered people qualify as our siblings rather than our cousins. It's a fair question, but one we know we dare not ask. It is simply not p.c. in the gay community to question how and why the T got added on to the LGB, let alone ask what I as a gay man have in common with a man who wants to cut off his penis, surgically construct a vagina, and become a woman. I'm not passing judgment, I respect transgendered people and sympathize with their cause, but I simply don't get how I am just as closely related to a transsexual (who is often not gay) as I am to a lesbian (who is). Is it wrong for me to simply ask why?

These are not simply "valid questions," and Aravosis was not "encouraging discussion" -- John Aravosis was clearly, as can be seen from his blog posts at the time as well as his Salon article (which brought the conflict outside of the LGBT community), on a crusade to exclude trans people from the "gay [sic] community" in order to get ENDA "passed."

The fact that this experienced blogger, attorney, and political operative (he was a senatorial staffer for corrupt GOPer Ted "series of tubes" Stevens) phrased his hate in the form of wide-eyed "innocent" questions is apparently all it takes to fool "JusticeDemon" into believing that Aravosis meant no harm. But it's untrue. And I was not reading too much into a two-year-old post.

Anyone reading the Salon piece with a fair mind (i.e., not clouded with cissexism) would see that John Aravosis clearly does see the LGBT movement as "his" as a gay man, and that "he" doesn't have anything in common with transgender people. We are not welcome in "his" gay-rights movement. That is the point of his Salon piece.

As such, I strongly stand by my original statement:

Uh, hey, some of us were there when Aravosis publicly made the case that we don't belong in his cisgender gay-rights movement.

And I very strongly condemn Autumn Sandeen and Pam Spaulding for accusing me of "weaponizing" the term "cisgender" because I spoke the truth about John Aravosis.

Update: It gets worse.

Apparently there are no depths to which Autumn Sandeen will not go in order to maintain her status within the LGB community -- including deliberately scapegoating another trans person as the whipping girl even though it's chronologically impossible to happen as she claims.
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[User Picture]From: [info]glossing
2009-07-02 05:22 pm (UTC)

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[Came over here to comment since it's your LJ that's getting linked.]

I'm dismayed and really sickened by the application of the tone argument, thoroughly fallacious as it is. But I'm kind of weirdly amused by the fact that, from what I can tell (and I'm a pretty good reader), your original comment wasn't even all that [aggressive/weapon-y/nasty].

As to this -- starting point as to where I feel the term was weaponized against gay white men AHAHAHA, cry me a river. You were negatively discussing *one* white gay man, who made abhorrent and cissexist and transphobic statements. In his Salon column, a platform not exactly *easy* to obtain.

Anyway, my sister: I'm sorry there's this shit coming down on you. I admire you greatly and wish I could help.
[User Picture]From: [info]cereta
2009-07-02 05:51 pm (UTC)

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1. I will always be grateful to John Aravosis for letting me study his politics forum for my diss, but I can't even count the number of things wrong with his analysis there. Let's start with "gay part time" and work our way down, shall we?

2. You know, I am a proud proponent of Berlin's adage in my icon, but that is nothing like "weaponized" language.
[User Picture]From: [info]lavendertook
2009-07-02 05:59 pm (UTC)

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There's so much stupid being wrapped up together here, but in the end, it's amounting to a heap of transphobia.

And Aravosis essay there is just a world weary sigh of why the world would be better if everyone was like him and how much work it's been for him to include the LB and then that awful T, and I imagine he hasn't even acknowledged the IQ. "OMG MORE LETTERS!!!!" Someone obviously did not enjoy learning his alphabet and has bad associations with Sesame Street.
[User Picture]From: [info]rootedinsong
2009-07-02 06:56 pm (UTC)

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This is so ridiculous. I cannot fathom how anyone could be that willfully ignorant.

In that comment, the term cisgender wasn't used to explain privilege to people who didn't understand it, but instead used to angrily -- accusatorily -- pointing [sic] a finger at John Aravosis for being a gay white male who doesn't care about the civil rights of transgender people.

So I assume "white" and "male" are also offensive "weaponized" terms...

(Actually, I shouldn't say that - I'm sure some white people and some men would seriously say they were.)
[User Picture]From: [info]nihilistic_kid
2009-07-02 07:03 pm (UTC)

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WEAPONIZED!!!
[User Picture]From: [info]icecreamempress
2009-07-03 01:50 am (UTC)

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John Aravosis is a misogynist, and I don't understand why lesbian, bisexual, queer, genderqueer, and trans women put up with his misogynist nonsense just because he's a gay man. Yet they do.
[User Picture]From: [info]icecreamempress
2009-07-03 01:53 am (UTC)

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Wow, I sorted that wrong. I certainly did not mean to imply that all "lesbian, bisexual, queer, genderqueer" women were cisgendered.

And of course many straight cis women also ignore his misogyny because he's a gay man and a self-proclaimed "ally".

What I mean to say is that Aravosis is no friend to women, straight/gay/queer, cis/trans, whatsoever.
[User Picture]From: [info]kynn
2009-07-03 01:55 am (UTC)

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Nah, it's okay, I understood. :)
[User Picture]From: [info]kynn
2009-07-03 01:55 am (UTC)

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This.

Exactly.

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